Did Ray Charles paint these trucks?

[Mikey Swift]

I have no horse in this race you guys got going on, but maybe if they paid more to the workers, and required more skilled labor we would get better trucks. From google they pay about $15 an hour and that’s not too far from McDonalds pay. So we get McDonalds quality too I guess

While I can understand that sentiment, personally I've never not given my absolute best at a job. It comes down to work ethic and integrity. They accepted the position, knowing the pay...and these aren't TVs they are making. If someone does their job half assed, it could literally kill someone.

 

[RHO33$]

Legit had to have the dealer buy back my first one due to paint issues. It was so damn bad. Luckily I haven’t seen one on the forged blue new one.. Sorry man! It’s pretty ridiculous honestly.

 

[matt35hr]

Yeah bro, it's definitely not the money hungry corporation cutting corners, pinching pennies, outsourcing, paying a former CEO 20 million to run the company into the ground, and cutting manpower at every level to funnel more money for stock buybacks that do nothing to improve quality, products, or any benefit rather than lining shareholder pockets. Totally sounds like the workers fault.

Bro read the room
Yall basically use mob tactics to get whatever you want out of the manufacturer and the level of quality you put out is what I would expect from a votech school. I dont blame the manufacturer at all I think they do there best to put out a stellar product most of the time, but when you have people on the assembly line who know they can get away with doing a piss poor job,or drugs and alcohol on work hours there are going to be a myriad of problems,don't even get me started on the law consistently supporting the left down the ticket at every election

 

[Viper]

Bro read the room
Yall basically use mob tactics to get whatever you want out of the manufacturer and the level of quality you put out is what I would expect from a votech school. I dont blame the manufacturer at all I think they do there best to put out a stellar product most of the time, but when you have people on the assembly line who know they can get away with doing a piss poor job,or drugs and alcohol on work hours there are going to be a myriad of problems,don't even get me started on the law consistently supporting the left down the ticket at every election

Your lack of knowledge regarding the auto industry is showing. All the company cares about is hitting a number, doesn't matter if the product is good or bad, that's for the dealers to deal with. Ever since stellantis formed people leave, retire, change plants, and no one gets backfilled. They want more and more with less and less people every day. We get it, you bleed red and love corporations taking advantage of everyone, including customers. Nevermind the fact these workers are doing the same task what 400+ times a shift? (I don't know their rate). Let's so you do the same thing 400 times a day and see how perfect every product is. Anything man made will have defects, that's why there's warranties. You think stellantis are the good guys? Just look at supplier relations reviews, stellantis has been dead last the last several years. They don't care about anyone but their shareholders. Also you can go look at r/stellantis if you want to see how well the employees are treated.

 

[RAM-Ranch-MT]

Anyways, whether you are pro union or anti union our trucks aren't built to the standard they should be. End of story. Im frustrated with the paint defects and should not slip past qc but love the truck overall. Stellantis needs to get it together

 

[matt35hr]

Your lack of knowledge regarding the auto industry is showing. All the company cares about is hitting a number, doesn't matter if the product is good or bad, that's for the dealers to deal with. Ever since stellantis formed people leave, retire, change plants, and no one gets backfilled. They want more and more with less and less people every day. We get it, you bleed red and love corporations taking advantage of everyone, including customers. Nevermind the fact these workers are doing the same task what 400+ times a shift? (I don't know their rate). Let's so you do the same thing 400 times a day and see how perfect every product is. Anything man made will have defects, that's why there's warranties. You think stellantis are the good guys? Just look at supplier relations reviews, stellantis has been dead last the last several years. They don't care about anyone but their shareholders. Also you can go look at r/stellantis if you want to see how well the employees are treated.

Never said stellantis was the good guys
I have nothing against them they are not incharge of quality control that's the people the uaw decides to allow into there club
Your hardon for stellantis is painfully obvious, maybe you should talk to someone about it

 

[Viper]

Never said stellantis was the good guys
I have nothing against them they are not incharge of quality control that's the people the uaw decides to allow into there club
Your hardon for stellantis is painfully obvious, maybe you should talk to someone about it

They're the employeer how are they not in charge? Christ you're dense

 

[matt35hr]

From Google ai
The UAW (United Auto Workers) exerts strong influence on American auto manufacturers through several methods, including strikes, collective bargaining, and organizing non-unionized plants. They strategically strike specific plants to exert pressure on negotiations, pushing for higher wages, benefits, and job security. The UAW also uses the threat of escalating strikes to force concessions during contract negotiations. Additionally, the UAW actively works to organize non-unionized plants, potentially expanding their influence and bargaining power.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Strikes:
The UAW has a history of using strikes, including selective strikes that target specific plants, to put pressure on automakers during contract negotiations. This allows them to target the most profitable facilities and disrupt production, forcing companies to the bargaining table.
Collective Bargaining:
Through collective bargaining, the UAW negotiates contracts with automakers that cover wages, benefits, working conditions, and job security for their members. These contracts are a major factor in shaping the auto industry landscape and the lives of autoworkers.
Organizing Non-Unionized Plants:
The UAW is actively working to unionize non-unionized auto plants, aiming to expand their influence and bargaining power. This includes plants of companies like Tesla, Rivian, and others.
"Rolling Strike" Strategy:
The UAW has used a "rolling strike" strategy, where strikes are initiated at different plants without warning, allowing them to gradually escalate the strike and increase pressure.

 

[Condren25]

The paint quality is not great in these trucks unfortunately! Mine came with a ton of scratches on the back of the cab…. Looked like someone took sand paper to the back of the cab. Unfortunately didn’t see them when I picked the truck up because it was overcast and drizzling rain. Also, on the fuel door the paint is VERY thing! If you get it in the right light which doesn’t happen very often you can see through the paint essentially. It’s black and in the right light looks like a light brown! Again in my situation the dealership has been very helpful and is paying for the paint correction I had to have done to get all the scratches out (or most of them, there are still a few that are very unnoticeable) and are working to get the gas cap resolved as well. Very unfortunate though that we have to deal with these issues on these trucks when we spend that kind of money you wouldn’t think it would be an issue. Apparently it’s not just ram that has these issues though for what it’s worth…..

 

[Viper]

From Google ai
The UAW (United Auto Workers) exerts strong influence on American auto manufacturers through several methods, including strikes, collective bargaining, and organizing non-unionized plants. They strategically strike specific plants to exert pressure on negotiations, pushing for higher wages, benefits, and job security. The UAW also uses the threat of escalating strikes to force concessions during contract negotiations. Additionally, the UAW actively works to organize non-unionized plants, potentially expanding their influence and bargaining power.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Strikes:
The UAW has a history of using strikes, including selective strikes that target specific plants, to put pressure on automakers during contract negotiations. This allows them to target the most profitable facilities and disrupt production, forcing companies to the bargaining table.
Collective Bargaining:
Through collective bargaining, the UAW negotiates contracts with automakers that cover wages, benefits, working conditions, and job security for their members. These contracts are a major factor in shaping the auto industry landscape and the lives of autoworkers.
Organizing Non-Unionized Plants:
The UAW is actively working to unionize non-unionized auto plants, aiming to expand their influence and bargaining power. This includes plants of companies like Tesla, Rivian, and others.
"Rolling Strike" Strategy:
The UAW has used a "rolling strike" strategy, where strikes are initiated at different plants without warning, allowing them to gradually escalate the strike and increase pressure.

Bro you need a hobby or a life

 

[Mikey Swift]

 

[matt35hr]

Bro you need a hobby or a life

Says the guy that has responded to all my posts within a 2hr time frame

 

[INTIMD8R]

Was wiping the truck down today and found some more paint imperfections from the factory. FML
Literally right above the tail light. Going to chat with the dealership about fixing it. They fucked up royally because the paint has started to crack in that area as well. How hard is it to paint a damn truck at the factory? So frustrating.

Paint imperfections :
1) red splotches in the black two tone between bed and cab
2)Massive pinhole in paint on driver rocker panel
3)big ass scratch on skidplate
4) these two new pinhole above tail light
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Well several robotic arms did. So in a way just like Ray Charles.
I have 1 in each front door but nothing near that bad.

 

[RAM-Ranch-MT]

Well several robotic arms did. So in a way just like Ray Charles.
I have 1 in each front door but nothing near that bad.

For sure. At this point i just let it go and forget about it. Local dealership didnt really want to warranty it as they would have to repaint the whole bed and claimed it was better from the factory than they could do (bs). They also said that this happened due to foreign materials getting under the paint at the factory and their paint shop is dirtier than factory so same chances of this happening (also bs). Did the art of painting also go to the wayside with quality?! Also i don't want to leave my truck at the dealership for months on end to paint the whole bed.

I have honestly forgotten about the tiny imperfections and dont really notice them anymore unless im doing fine detail work. When i go to sell it someday and if the buyer somehow notices, ill just tell him it came that way from the factory and show him pics. LOL.

 

[Wrinkled_Donut]

For sure. At this point i just let it go and forget about it. Local dealership didnt really want to warranty it as they would have to repaint the whole bed and claimed it was better from the factory than they could do (bs). They also said that this happened due to foreign materials getting under the paint at the factory and their paint shop is dirtier than factory so same chances of this happening (also bs). Did the art of painting also go to the wayside with quality?! Also i don't want to leave my truck at the dealership for months on end to paint the whole bed.

I have honestly forgotten about the tiny imperfections and dont really notice them anymore unless im doing fine detail work. When i go to sell it someday and if the buyer somehow notices, ill just tell him it came that way from the factory and show him pics. LOL.

Not to beat a dead horse- but the quality of basically everything has tanked ever since the "pandemic". From your local restaurant right up to manufacturing. Employees everywhere don't give a shit, customer service is non-existent, and every company is cutting every corner they can.

Don't get me started. It irritates the shit out of me. I literally have always tried my best to deliver perfection at work, I guess that's a dying sentiment.

The "pandemic" and ensuing lockdowns caused such irreversible damage to this county (and the world). It's something I will never forget the rest of my life when I go to the ballot box, and that's all I'll say about that.

 

[RamCares]

Hi there, @RAM-Ranch-MT, @ah64aviator, and others!

To anyone with paint concerns, we encourage you to individually send a private message our way. Our team would like to work in combination with your dealerships to address and look into this.

Hannah
Ram Cares

 

[INTIMD8R]

For sure. At this point i just let it go and forget about it. Local dealership didnt really want to warranty it as they would have to repaint the whole bed and claimed it was better from the factory than they could do (bs). They also said that this happened due to foreign materials getting under the paint at the factory and their paint shop is dirtier than factory so same chances of this happening (also bs). Did the art of painting also go to the wayside with quality?! Also i don't want to leave my truck at the dealership for months on end to paint the whole bed.

I have honestly forgotten about the tiny imperfections and dont really notice them anymore unless im doing fine detail work. When i go to sell it someday and if the buyer somehow notices, ill just tell him it came that way from the factory and show him pics. LOL.

Yeah looking over my truck that I have had for a week now, I've noticed that the quality of these trucks are poor. I just noticed my hood really isn't straight, and the gaps are off on damn near every panel.
It's just sad that we pay so much of our hard earned money for poorly built vehicles now a days. It just seems no body takes pride in their work anymore.
I would be embarrassed to say I work somewhere where something is built so poorly.
What's even more sad is we as customers except it as we don't want to deal with the hassle of taking it in to have it fixed because that's a crap shoot as well.
I love the truck, the frame, the engine, transmission and the interior (for the most part) seems to be the best parts of these trucks. Of course the looks are awesome too, just don't look closely at it.

 

[RamFan]

Yeah looking over my truck that I have had for a week now, I've noticed that the quality of these trucks are poor. I just noticed my hood really isn't straight, and the gaps are off on damn near every panel.
It's just sad that we pay so much of our hard earned money for poorly built vehicles now a days. It just seems no body takes pride in their work anymore.
I would be embarrassed to say I work somewhere where something is built so poorly.
What's even more sad is we as customers except it as we don't want to deal with the hassle of taking it in to have it fixed because that's a crap shoot as well.
I love the truck, the frame, the engine, transmission and the interior (for the most part) seems to be the best parts of these trucks. Of course the looks are awesome too, just don't look closely at it.

Thank the unions for that. No pride, just people who want their “rights” protected and no fear of losing their jobs regardless of how they perform.

Chris

 

[Wrinkled_Donut]

Thank the unions for that. No pride, just people who want their “rights” protected and no fear of losing their jobs regardless of how they perform.

Chris

The auto unions are an insult to skilled labor.

 

[INTIMD8R]

Thank the unions for that. No pride, just people who want their “rights” protected and no fear of losing their jobs regardless of how they perform.

Chris

Don't forget paid a shit ton of money for it.