PPF vs Ceramic Coating

[Banger]

Hey all. Both PPF and ceramic coats are new to me. I’ve always just had regular wax or polymer coats on my paint. I’m wondering which would be best for my situation. I don’t plan on off roading, as the RHO will be my daily driver. I live in Ohio, where we have some snow and ice in winter, and salt on the roads. Do a decent amount of highway driving. My 2020 Rebel didn’t have any noticeable rock chips.

Ceramic coating runs around $1500 and PPF about $8500 locally. My concern is rock chips on the wider fender flares that the Rebel didn’t have. People have mentioned damage to the fender flares, but not sure if it is the off roading that harms them more than daily driving or not?


Is the PPF worth the additional upcharge, or a waste of money if I’m not off roading?

Thanks in advance

 

[MattH89]

Ppf is going to be far better for paint protection of chips. Ceramic is more of a swirl/light scratch protection.

 

[Ads75]

For me, full ppf would not be worth it. Spending 10% of the new vehicles value to protect the paint does not seem worth it to me. How much would it cost to fix the paint in 5 years if you don’t get ppf? Probably less than $8500. If something goes wrong with the truck (lemon, accident), as I understand it, you are still out $8500. Maybe I’m wrong on that. I’m sure full ppf does a good job of protecting the paint, but I would rather spend $8500 on a lot of other things.

 

[RamFan]

I have had PPF (Xpel) on my last three vehicles but I’ve only done the partial front end treatment (bumper, headlamps, front 1/3 of hood and fenders and rear view mirrors. Absolutely worth it as my cars looked as new as day one.

Now on a truck….not as much “paint” to protect. We have just the hood/headlights on our Laramie as the grill and bumper are chrome.

On the RHO…I think we might be able to do the bumper, headlights and hood ? Definitely doing mudflaps but that’s about it to protect the sides and the people behind us.

Chris

 

[RADA]

It pisses me off that a 60" premium roll of PPF costs between $350 to $500, but some places charge more than ten times that price in labor!

$8500 - $1000 for supplies = $7500.

$7500 / 8 hours of labor = $937.50 per hour!!!

$7500 / 10 hours of labor = $750 per hour!!

$7500 / 12 hours of labor = $625 per hour!!

In perspective, my father-in-law is an attorney and a full partner in a law firm, and only charges $450/hr!

 

[Irongoats]

Plan on doing it myself through Metro Restyling I got some wrap from them for my daily.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

It pisses me off that a 60" premium roll of PPF costs between $350 to $500, but some places charge more than ten times that price in labor!

$8500 - $1000 for supplies = $7500.

$7500 / 8 hours of labor = $937.50 per hour!!!

$7500 / 10 hours of labor = $750 per hour!!

$7500 / 12 hours of labor = $625 per hour!!

In perspective, my father-in-law is an attorney and a full partner in a law firm, and only charges $450/hr!

My srt jeep is full wrap and full ppf, took almost 3 weeks total (removed old wrap too) entire vehicle had to be dismantled, door handles, trim, bumpers ect and our shop did it. Done correctly its not a 8 hour job and my ppf was around $2,000 cost. You are paying for the expertise and knowledge. If it was something anyone can do then they would be doing it (I can’t even do it myself)

 

[RADA]

My srt jeep is full wrap and full ppf, took almost 3 weeks total (removed old wrap too) entire vehicle had to be dismantled, door handles, trim, bumpers ect and our shop did it. Done correctly its not a 8 hour job and my ppf was around $2,000 cost. You are paying for the expertise and knowledge. If it was something anyone can do then they would be doing it (I can’t even do it myself)

I worked for a sign company before joining the USAF.

I've applied vinyl to cars, trucks, boats, etc...

There's no way they can justify a $500+/hr labor rate...

 

[Air’d outSRT]

I worked for a sign company before joining the USAF.

I've applied vinyl to cars, trucks, boats, etc...

There's no way they can justify a $500+/hr labor rate...

Please read what I said. 3 weeks to do the work, 1 week of it was the ppf. That isn’t $500 an hour…

 

[Silver RHO]

I will be full ceramic coating for UV protection and super ease of washing the vehicle. Will also be doing it on the black plastics to protect from fading. PPF may be worth it on the quarter panels / front end but not worth it to me on the whole thing. It’s not going to increase your trade-in value. Need to understand that any exposed edge of PPF will lift over a short time and will capture dust and you will absolutely see the lines. If you aren’t super peculiar, may not bother you for the protection from rock chips it offers. But seeing those lines would drive me insane and would rather just have professional paint touch up done down the road which would be less than a full PPF cost for sure.

 

[RAM-Ranch-MT]

It pisses me off that a 60" premium roll of PPF costs between $350 to $500, but some places charge more than ten times that price in labor!

$8500 - $1000 for supplies = $7500.

$7500 / 8 hours of labor = $937.50 per hour!!!

$7500 / 10 hours of labor = $750 per hour!!

$7500 / 12 hours of labor = $625 per hour!!

In perspective, my father-in-law is an attorney and a full partner in a law firm, and only charges $450/hr!

If its so easy then buy the roll, do it yourself and post the results...LOL. They are likely charging in the $100s per hour, as this is Not an 8 hour job. Wrap/PPF takes a shitload of skill to do correctly. As stated, the truck must be dismantled, you must not damage any paint with a razor, and you cant get a single bubble. You need 5-10 year experience to do a decent job. There is a reason car wraps cost similar to a full paint job. Wrap techs are in the same caliber as a skilled painter. All the same prep work but inch by inch application that takes so long. I promise if you DIY it, you will be 40 hour+, $1000 in material and it will look like hell, you will likely make some gorgeous razor cuts into your brand new paint . Trust me they aren't making $500 per hour wrapping or doing PPF.

 

[JCooms]

It pisses me off that a 60" premium roll of PPF costs between $350 to $500, but some places charge more than ten times that price in labor!

$8500 - $1000 for supplies = $7500.

$7500 / 8 hours of labor = $937.50 per hour!!!

$7500 / 10 hours of labor = $750 per hour!!

$7500 / 12 hours of labor = $625 per hour!!

In perspective, my father-in-law is an attorney and a full partner in a law firm, and only charges $450/hr!

Absolutely blows my mind. I'm all about capitalism, but my goodness, that's just straight up rape!

 

[sman969]

I have the PPF on my Cayenne & it really helps protect the paint. The cost is really high plus it makes washing more complicated due to the film being delicate when pressure washing. I plan on going with a ceramic coating on the RHO. I figure it's a truck and don't expect it to remain perfect.

 

[RADA]

I'm using C6 Hydro Lite Ceramic Coating on the whole top side of the truck, Turtle Wax Graphine Flex Wax on the rims, engine bay, and the undercarriage.

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Absolutely blows my mind. I'm all about capitalism, but my goodness, that's just straight up rape!

Those are figures he made up…

 

[Air’d outSRT]

Please read what I said. 3 weeks to do the work, 1 week of it was the ppf. That isn’t $500 an hour…

You get what you pay for. If you want cheap you get cheap. (No I don’t care if you like it or not)

 

[Ads75]

Absolutely blows my mind. I'm all about capitalism, but my goodness, that's just straight up rape!

It is also something that is completely optional. Vehicles have been fine for decades without it.

 

[RADA]

Those are figures he made up…

No, I didn't frigging "make them up"!!!

Banger's first post states $8500 for a full PPF wrap!

I based my response off his post!!!


Maybe read instead of slamming people!

Oh, and if it takes longer than 3 to 4 days to do a complete wrap, the shop is blowing smoke up your ass...

 

[Air’d outSRT]

No, I didn't frigging "make them up"!!!

Banger's first post states $8500 for a full PPF wrap!

I based my response off his post!!!


Maybe read instead of slamming people!

Oh, and if it takes longer than 3 to 4 days to do a complete wrap, the shop is blowing smoke up your ass...

Incorrect bud, most vehicles need to be taken apart. Then if door jams are done ect it takes even longer. Love your enthusiasm though.
This definitely takes 3 or 4 days huh.

 

[Banger]

Incorrect bud, most vehicles need to be taken apart. Then if door jams are done ect it takes even longer. Love your enthusiasm though.
This definitely takes 3 or 4 days huh.

This is a big part of my concern. With all the bells and whistles and sensors these days, having someone taking off even something simple bumpers and headlights concerns me with them getting everything back together successfully and working properly. I was originally thinking of ceramic coat on most of the truck with PPF on the hood, headlight, mirrors. But looking at what they have to disassemble to do that makes me nervous. Maybe I'm overthinking it.