TK Responds to my comment...

[RADA]

 

[Ctech-Review]

lol, looking forward to seeing how this ages...my inside sources are telling me an opposite story he is providing.

 

[kem12993]

lol, looking forward to seeing how this ages...my inside sources are telling me an opposite story he is providing.

What you hearing?

 

[RADA]

I'm not posting because I believe him...

...but I do feel prices did get a little out of control during and after the C-19 shortages....

 

[Gunguyaz]

I'm not posting because I believe him...

...but I do feel prices did get a little out of control during and after the C-19 shortages....

I agree. MSRP for my Limited in 2019 was $57K. The same configuration today would be $80K. That is a 40% increase in 5 years.

 

[NDanecker]

I work for a manufacturer that uses a sizable amount of steal & aluminum raw material. Our prices sky rocket during covid 19 shortages but have yet to discount after prices dropped back down. This could be their adjustment but I don’t see 35%. Additionally, why aren’t other car/truck mfg doing similar? That’s when I’ll believe their claim.

 

[Clutch23]

Only bad thing about a big price cut would be the trade in values would drop significantly for anyone trading in a ram.

 

[AnthonyRI]

I think I was confused early and had just assumed that the videos were about 2025s. I haven't gone back to watch again and see if it specifically calls out different model years, but on your screenshot it does say 23/24. That is pretty irrelevant, since that's an incredible small % of the inventory - and ALWAYS happens as you cross into the new model year. That's a pretty big distinction, old dead stock vs new.

 

[RADA]

TK says he's 2 weeks ahead..

If he's right about prices dropping (still unconvinced about 35%), my theories are:

In a little more than two weeks the new "drill baby, drill" administration is taking over.

This drill policy will cause energy prices to drop significantly, meaning transportation costs will get cheaper almost immediately, then later goods, services, and raw material prices will drop.

Part two of my theory is RAM (& other manufacturers) could be using a combination of a small to low medium reduction in their profit margins, along with the reduction in their energy costs to reduce MSRPs as a way to stimulate an increase in sales.
Part 3 is I think we'll also see some low internal finance rates in the coming months.

An interest rate deal is a great way for dealers to hide a discount. When we get 0% for 72 months, all that happens is the dealer/mfr is buying the going rate down to 0% with their profit margin.

The people who bought two weeks earlier don't know another's interest rate, so they don't feel shafted by seeing the vehicle they paid XXXXX for reduced to YYYYY, and don't pitch a fit to the dealership.

 

[Joe86]

Only bad thing about a big price cut would be the trade in values would drop significantly for anyone trading in a ram.

100% true... RAM trade in value is shit from the beginning but if this happens, good luck.

 

[Joe86]

I think I was confused early and had just assumed that the videos were about 2025s. I haven't gone back to watch again and see if it specifically calls out different model years, but on your screenshot it does say 23/24. That is pretty irrelevant, since that's an incredible small % of the inventory - and ALWAYS happens as you cross into the new model year. That's a pretty big distinction, old dead stock vs new.

In another video he mentioned the 2025 as well, same 35%

 

[RADA]

I think I was confused early and had just assumed that the videos were about 2025s. I haven't gone back to watch again and see if it specifically calls out different model years, but on your screenshot it does say 23/24. That is pretty irrelevant, since that's an incredible small % of the inventory - and ALWAYS happens as you cross into the new model year. That's a pretty big distinction, old dead stock vs new.

Anthony-

In other videos TK is very specific that this is a MSRP price drop on 2025 vehicles. (I still don't believe it's 35%)

He says leftover 22s & 23s (can't even believe I'm writing that) and 24s, are in a different discount ball game.

 

[Ctech-Review]

What you hearing?

Ram is already has the highest discounts in the industry, Ford has 0 in discounts on new super duties (unless a XL/XLT) then $2k, they are sitting on heavy inventory and still no real discounts. GM offering 0 in discounts on there HD trucks. The highest I have seen a discount on a Ram right now is around 15% off MSRP (dealer/manufacture combined discounts). At that price this truck is well below the competitive truck prices, I see no logicial reason to drop prices more on the Ram 1500s. Most of of your YT doom & Gloom click bait channels have been preaching the same story for 3 years...and 3 years later truck prices still going up, heavy discounts never happened, and inflation is heading up higher for 2025...prices wont fall much. Take a watch at this

 

[yoda33073]

I agree. MSRP for my Limited in 2019 was $57K. The same configuration today would be $80K. That is a 40% increase in 5 years.

24% total inflation since then too. But there is no way RHO will drop that low. Other trims, possibly. RHO is at 2021 TRX prices. Won't go lower than that.

 

[AnthonyRI]

I agree. MSRP for my Limited in 2019 was $57K. The same configuration today would be $80K. That is a 40% increase in 5 years.

Looking at BASE level Limited with no options (other than engine choice and destination fee) 2019 to 2025 was less than 30%, just straight from code guides on MSRP. Not sure what rebates were in 2019, and no idea on dealer discounts. SO just using MSRP for the benchmark. I do wish I had a way to see historical rebate calendar

 

[Speeder757]

TK is full of B.S. and just throws random nonsense out and hopes some of it sticks. There will NOT be a 35% MSRP price cut across the board on CDJR products. Stellantis doesn't even come close to having a 35% (manufacturer to dealer) profit margin much less do they have the ability to lower prices 35% and still make a profit. I am baffled by the amount of people who take this guy serious.

 

[testerdahl]

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I'm just starting to read through this thread. As far as his comment for being ahead of the media, since I am one of the media, he has some insider information, that's for sure.

For myself, I'd never do what he is doing. I want to have two sources for information. Not saying he doesn't, but I couldn't run half the stuff he talks about without more collaboration from a variety of sources.

 

[testerdahl]

I'd also like to ask how many of you have changed your font to italics. Holy crap is that is hard to read for me. LOL

 

[yoda33073]

I'd also like to ask how many of you have changed your font to italics. Holy crap is that is hard to read for me. LOL

Congrats on your truck, both the RHO and your wife's. We need help on this forum. There are a ton of us that placed orders in April and May and have seen no movement, while a large majority that placed orders after the start of production, received their trucks. Can you send out or reach out to any of your contents at Ram and let them know that several of us April and May orders have reached out and are wondering why their trucks have been overlooked in the ordering process. It's really not fair and no one seems to be able to help or care. I appreciate it.

 

[testerdahl]

Congrats on your truck, both the RHO and your wife's. We need help on this forum. There are a ton of us that placed orders in April and May and have seen no movement, while a large majority that placed orders after the start of production, received their trucks. Can you send out or reach out to any of your contents at Ram and let them know that several of us April and May orders have reached out and are wondering why their trucks have been overlooked in the ordering process. It's really not fair and no one seems to be able to help or care. I appreciate it.

I wish I could help. I've been asked more than once and I've talked with Ram about it. PR says "no comment." They have nothing to tell me no matter how often and how many different ways I ask. Trust me, I've tried.