Jumped ship…

[Alexac9]

Here's my fleet, two with Hurricane and my TRX. Big fans of the Grand Wagoneer L. We have the series III obsidian with a tow package. Great family SUV especially for long road trips. Very minor warranty work on it so far.

 

[RamFan]

Some pics of my wife's 2025 GW Series II Obsidian. The one thing it doesn't have that it really should at this price point....Automatic Driver Assist. It does have Driver Assist but you have to have 2 fingers on the steering wheel at all times, unlike the RHO where it will literally drive for you as long as you're paying attention and the roads are on the TomTom map.

Edit: Also I lied....510hp vs the RHO's 540. Still....plenty for this thing! It ain't slow!!!

Also....this picture doesn't really capture the proper colors...dark gray with black chrome wheels.

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Interior from the back seat
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Rear passenger climate control screen
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View of front seats and dash....forgive my daughter's sidewalk chalk she got from Texas Roadhouse last night
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Driver's view
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Uconnect main screen showing Macintosh reference app and flip-up climate control/seat control screen below
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Ambient lighting control app
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Relax app that has 5-6 different themes w/ sounds/music and extends to the gauge cluster
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Onboard beer fridge (okay maybe not beer but yes it's actually a fridge!)
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Beautiful and I LOVE the wheels...so elegant and sporty.

Chris

 

[D&Sadventure]

GO WITH THE TRX NANO FOR THE WIN

 

[RDRHINO]

Beautiful and I LOVE the wheels...so elegant and sporty.

Chris

It's definitely a nice mom-mobile! Not bad for free!

I also love how they incorporated the step rails into the lower rocker panels. Very elegant design feature.

 

[D&Sadventure]

GO WITH THE TRX NANO FOR THE WIN
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In all seriousness if they could put this out with the 2 L hurricane motor. I think it would kick ass. They might have to change the name to rho with all lowercase letters

 

[RHOfan]

Curious what issues you had with the RHO's ride quality

It’s pretty rough on broken pavement…lots of impact harshness flows into the cabin…the big squishy “looking” tires & long travel suspension are meant for fast off-roading, not paved bridge abutment strips.

Talked with a service writer at the Tesla store while my wife’s vehicle was getting its 30K service. He has a ‘22 TRX & said the Bilsteins rode very firm, in his opinion. He switched them out for another brand (maybe Fox?) & the on-road ride/handling got 100% better.

 

[lapoolboy]

It’s pretty rough on broken pavement…lots of impact harshness flows into the cabin…the big squishy “looking” tires & long travel suspension are meant for fast off-roading, not paved bridge abutment strips.

Talked with a service writer at the Tesla store while my wife’s vehicle was getting its 30K service. He has a ‘22 TRX & said the Bilsteins rode very firm, in his opinion. He switched them out for another brand (maybe Fox?) & the on-road ride & handling got 100% better.

Interesting. I find my truck to ride precisely the opposite of that.

 

[mghtymous21]

Some pics of my wife's 2025 GW Series II Obsidian. The one thing it doesn't have that it really should at this price point....Automatic Driver Assist. It does have Driver Assist but you have to have 2 fingers on the steering wheel at all times, unlike the RHO where it will literally drive for you as long as you're paying attention and the roads are on the TomTom map.

Edit: Also I lied....510hp vs the RHO's 540. Still....plenty for this thing! It ain't slow!!!

Also....this picture doesn't really capture the proper colors...dark gray with black chrome wheels.

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Interior from the back seat
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Rear passenger climate control screen
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View of front seats and dash....forgive my daughter's sidewalk chalk she got from Texas Roadhouse last night
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Driver's view
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Uconnect main screen showing Macintosh reference app and flip-up climate control/seat control screen below
View attachment 28561

Ambient lighting control app
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Relax app that has 5-6 different themes w/ sounds/music and extends to the gauge cluster
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Onboard beer fridge (okay maybe not beer but yes it's actually a fridge!)
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Yes beer

 

[RHOfan]

GW took its 1st drive to Home Depot. I didn’t get the MacIntosh system. Demoed it & came away underwhelmed. Loved the green power meters, though!

I did crank the standard Alpine system today & the clarity and treble quality blew away the HK in my RHO. This system would actually sound pretty killer with an aftermarket sub. I forgot how good OEM stereos could sound…not top-quality aftermarket level, but pretty dang good.

I’ve got a few mods planned, but reserving them until I’m sure the Fiat electronics have been tamed & I'm keeping this truck.

 

[RHOfan]

Interesting. I find my truck to ride precisely the opposite of that.

Can’t imagine our RHOs rode any different. I kept my tires at 38psi & suspension in Baja or Auto, rarely Sport. Individual perceptions can differ greatly.

 

[D&Sadventure]

Interesting. I find my truck to ride precisely the opposite of that.

I tend to agree with you. If I had to describe the ride of my RHO I would say if anything it’s to soft.

 

[lapoolboy]

I tend to agree with you. If I had to describe the ride of my RHO I would say if anything it’s to soft.

Yep.

 

[Bleublaze55]

I’m totally with you.

The REEV driveline would perfectly suit the GW.

BUT, I have zero faith Stellantis will get it right in the first few models years. If it survives until the next major refresh in 3-4 years, that might be a great option.

The other issue is cost. I saw the Monroney sticker on a mid-level Ram REV. It was over $110K! Of course, that’s pre-production, so who knows where it will actually land.

I honestly would rather have a hybrid than a full electric. We don't have solar and charging the current smaller SUV makes our electric bill hundreds more per month. It pushes us into a tier (CA Communism) that makes electricity a pain point. I think for now, Hybrids will be the solution that allows us to drive badA$$ trucks that do the opposite of being kind to the planet. HAHA. I used to drive by prius' in my EVO thanking them for doing what I didn't want to do. haha. Drive boring.

 

[MurderedCat]

Can’t imagine our RHOs rode any different. I kept my tires at 38psi & suspension in Baja or Auto, rarely Sport. Individual perceptions can differ greatly.

My gen 2 Raptor blows both my former TRX and my current RHO out of the water suspension/drive wise. It just rode so much better.

 

[Faze]

What vehicle got 31mpg with the 6.4L? Is it all downhill to Carolina from your location?

challenger.. bit lighter than ram of course, tried to find some photo of the dash, I think it even shown 560 miles to empty

 

[MGS172]

It’s pretty rough on broken pavement…lots of impact harshness flows into the cabin…the big squishy “looking” tires & long travel suspension are meant for fast off-roading, not paved bridge abutment strips.

Talked with a service writer at the Tesla store while my wife’s vehicle was getting its 30K service. He has a ‘22 TRX & said the Bilsteins rode very firm, in his opinion. He switched them out for another brand (maybe Fox?) & the on-road ride/handling got 100% better.

Interesting as well I find that to be the opposite of Southern California pot hole roads.

I typically run the RHO suspension in sport mode to eliminate the "roll of the ocean" or water bed feel on the highway. Then again 80% of my trucks miles are dirt road. It feels to me the spring rate on the front end is a bit bouncy. Obviously different states and different roads.

The Gen 3 Raptor had much better highway manners but only in a straight line. Sure it was "smoother" but left to right, turning, nose dives on the brakes were horrible. Don't even get me started on the transmission falling on its face at high altitude ski towns. HA

 

[rpr]

It feels to me the spring rate on the front end is a bit bouncy.

 

[MurderedCat]

View attachment 28576Here's my fleet, two with Hurricane and my TRX. Big fans of the Grand Wagoneer L. We have the series III obsidian with a tow package. Great family SUV especially for long road trips. Very minor warranty work on it so far.View attachment 28577

That GW is sick, rides so smooth!

 

[Mikey Swift]

That 2027 Kia Telluride looks pretty dope too. Turbo 4 hybrid platform getting 35mpg. Futuristic looking interior, boxy exterior, kinda gives Range Rover vibes.

 

[RHOfan]

That 2027 Kia Telluride looks pretty dope too. Turbo 4 hybrid platform getting 35mpg. Futuristic looking interior, boxy exterior, kinda gives Range Rover vibes.

In my search for an RHO replacement, I drove the latest off-road version of that vehicle by Hyundai (Pallisade XRT-Pro?).

The Koreans have made huge leaps in just about every area of car building since entering the US in the 80s. Remember the Excel? Ha! At least that was my impression based on reviews, word of mouth & advertising…I hadn’t driven one in many years.

In a word, the Pallisade SUCKED! It wasn’t offensive, but did absolutely nothing exemplary. The folks who buy these are obviously sold on features for the money & long warranty.

I’m going to give Hyundai/Kia another 20+ years before I test drive one again. Though, I do believe their N-cars are likely more special.