Level kit best option

[DCook]

Typically the aftermarket extended warranties don’t kick in until after your factory is up. I had a CV boot replaced with less that 200 miles on my truck. It’s an issue and I’d be surprised if they pinned it on you, although it’s within their right to do so. Just an easy out because of the modification. Just find a cool dealership.

Alright thanks

 

[D&Sadventure]

I think it’s a great point and as @itsmekylep pointed out, the guys with the transmission issues all have one thing in common, the lifting of their trucks.

Chris

Yup notices that too.

 

[frogjbm]

Haven’t got my truck yet, but hopefully next week. I have the pro kit, 20x10 -18 Vossens, and 37x12.50 waiting though! That picture is from the white rho at my local lifted trucks

How many inches of lift did you get?

 

[Adub]

How many inches of lift did you get?

It's the same kit as @Elonmsk 2.7r/1.5r and the white rho I posted from lifted. He posted some awesome pics in another thread.

 

[Adub]

How many inches of lift did you get?

I'll install mine after (I get the truck) past break-in and receive the powersteps. Quite a step after lift and 37in tires.

 

[frogjbm]

I'll install mine after (I get the truck) pass break-in and receive the powersteps. Quite a step after lift and 37in tires.

It’s going to look so badass!

 

[DCook]

Went in today to have my torn cv looked at and my first oil change , they finish up and I ask about the cv to schedule and I get a blank stare , truck had no issues on inspection . Wtf you can't see the Grease all the way around the wheel well clumped up with sand . Also not happy about a few greasy fingerprints on the steering wheel . Do you guys get sent to the mopar quick lube this is my first ram

 

[RamFan]

Went in today to have my torn cv looked at and my first oil change , they finish up and I ask about the cv to schedule and I get a blank stare , truck had no issues on inspection . Wtf you can't see the Grease all the way around the wheel well clumped up with sand . Also not happy about a few greasy fingerprints on the steering wheel . Do you guys get sent to the mopar quick lube this is my first ram

Before I brought the truck in for the first oil change, I was pretty adamant about keeping it clean etc and the service manager ended up speaking to me and took care of the truck, bringing it to the tech for the oil change and bringing it back to me

Chris

 

[Attakracer]

I’d recommend spending some time on the TRX forum and comparing the experiences with perch collars vs. Eibach or Geiser springs. There are pluses and minuses on both sides, but it seems that the springs are generally considered a better option. Unless you don’t mind replacing CV boots and/or axles every few thousand miles.

What are the cons of the springs ?? I haven't seen any so far !

 

[Attakracer]

Definitely not trying to argue, my explanation may not be perfect, basically Foutz style collars or springs do the same thing, spacers, on top of or bellow the strut are no good. they extend the length of the strut overextending drive train components.

How does a collar extend the strut, but not a spring ?? I don't see how there is a difference between a spacer and a longer spring !!! The spring has to be longer than stock, otherwise they would NOT lift the front end up !! Sooooo longer spring or a spacer should achieve the same thing ! ( With the same problems either way actually). At least that's how it seems to me ......

 

[DCook]

What are the cons of the springs ?? I haven't seen any so far !

I believe some people had springs blow out with full droop you would have to visit the trx forum

 

[TVH476]

How does a collar extend the strut, but not a spring ?? I don't see how there is a difference between a spacer and a longer spring !!! The spring has to be longer than stock, otherwise they would NOT lift the front end up !! Sooooo longer spring or a spacer should achieve the same thing ! ( With the same problems either way actually). At least that's how it seems to me ......

It doesn't, the collar & the spring do the same thing, more preload on the strut. Spacers on top of the strut or extensions on the bottom of the strut are what will exceed factory angles of the cv's. When I did my truck the factory springs have no preload on a fully extended strut, I needed my spring compressors to install the Eibach springs, this would be the same case to install collars.

 

[frogjbm]

It doesn't, the collar & the spring do the same thing, more preload on the strut. Spacers on top of the strut or extensions on the bottom of the strut are what will exceed factory angles of the cv's. When I did my truck the factory springs have no preload on a fully extended strut, I needed my spring compressors to install the Eibach springs, this would be the same case to install collars.

Lower collars are safe to use because they do not allow articulation beyond the strut capability, same as Eibach pro kit spring, both achieve the same result. Now…top collars are NOT TO BE USED as it will articulate well beyond the capability thus destroying your front end components.

I’m running the Foutz 1.5” bottom collars, works great, no issues whatsoever. I also had level kits on several other trucks before and no issues.

Per Foutz:

Why is it bad to add a block on top?
• When you add a block on top of the spring it moves the whole shock down and that lets the suspension droop farther then it was intended - This results in putting the Ball Joints & CV joints in a bind which will cause premature failures.

• That is why we don't use some cheesy block on top of the shock mount that causes damage to your ball joints and CV's

How do we know this?
• We took the time to engineer and construct a proper under spring spacer that mounts to the shock body under the lower spring perch so it can add extra preload to the stock spring

• Our team at Foutz Motorsports has an incredible amount of experience & knowledge when it comes to stock suspension from our Raptor R race programs and racing our stock full Ford Super Duty race trucks over the years.

 

[Attakracer]

It doesn't, the collar & the spring do the same thing, more preload on the strut. Spacers on top of the strut or extensions on the bottom of the strut are what will exceed factory angles of the cv's. When I did my truck the factory springs have no preload on a fully extended strut, I needed my spring compressors to install the Eibach springs, this would be the same case to install collars.

Thats what I mean, they both do the same thing, so why are people thinking one does bad things to drivetrain and other methods don't hurt drivetrain !! Doesn't make any sense to me, they all do the same thing !!!

 

[xkpgx81]

All I know is my truck rides so much better with the Eibach 1.6 springs, maybe they are progressive rate springs or the spring rates are more ideal. Do any collars make the truck ride a shit ton better?

 

[D&Sadventure]

They are talking about the plate that goes on top of the strut tower. Effectively lengthening the strut tower. This would increase the CV joint and ball joint angle. In my opinion, it’s still not a bad way to go when used in conjunction with limiting straps to maintain stock angles. you maintain the stock preload this way, and it’s easier on the shock shafts

 

[frogjbm]

All I know is my truck rides so much better with the Eibach 1.6 springs, maybe they are progressive rate springs or the spring rates are more ideal. Do any collars make the truck ride a shit ton better?

Mine rides great with the Foutz 1.5's...nice and smooth, no issues.

 

[xkpgx81]

Mine rides great with the Foutz 1.5's...nice and smooth, no issues.

But way better than stock?

 

[itsmekylep]

Probably my imagination , but while the ride height calibration didn’t fix my shifting issue,
It does seem to ride as good as stock did. It did seem a tiny bit stiffer before that.

 

[D&Sadventure]

Probably not your imagination remember, those shocks are constantly adjusting. It may have thought the suspension was partially unloaded and stiffen itself up in preparation for coming back down.