They cannot fix my 2025 RHO! Too new of a truck???

[FrankNSteinPC]

Very few mom and pops are going to be equipped to work on these vehicles that are more akin to computers. The amount of proprietary software it's just not reasonable to think most are going to be able to become expert on everything.

I usually stick to dealers and trade prior to warranty being up for this reason.

Another point my wife brought up to me was, "Since when have you ever owned a vehicle past its warranty?" The answer was not in the last 25 years. She also asked me when the last time I owned and paid for a vehicle for over 5 years? Again, she was right; not in the last 25+ years have I done so. As the vehicle begins heading to the point of the bumper-to-bumper warranty expiring, I know this is when everything will go south, so I get rid of it and get a new vehicle under warranty. With more electronics and the obvious reduction of QC in manufacturing, these vehicles are less and less reliable, even in the warranty phase.

 

[BucsFan]

Another point my wife brought up to me was, "Since when have you ever owned a vehicle past its warranty?" The answer was not in the last 25 years. She also asked me when the last time I owned and paid for a vehicle for over 5 years? Again, she was right; not in the last 25+ years have I done so. As the vehicle begins heading to the point of the bumper-to-bumper warranty expiring, I know this is when everything will go south, so I get rid of it and get a new vehicle under warranty. With more electronics and the obvious reduction of QC in manufacturing, these vehicles are less and less reliable, even in the warranty phase.

I totally understand that approach, and almost everyone I know follows it or leases. We keep our cars 10-12 years minimum since I hate car payments and love my cars. For example, my wife's car will be 30 yo next year. So a good 3rd party mechanic is a must for us. Most 3rd party mechanics are terrible, but if you can find the right one, it's great. My guys have the equipment to diagnose the issues the dealer can. Dealers don't do repairs anyway, they just replace components. My guys can do that. They also tell me what I should take in for warranty so I can save $$. Just a few weeks ago, I took my AMG in before my extended warranty expired and got over $10K of retail work done - way more than the warranty cost me. (Sidebar, tracking my AMG burns through the dynamic transmission and engine mounts fast so that was a loophole I got under warranty several times )

Anyway, if you research carefully, you can find good mechanics who know their stuff. And to a prior post, they can keep a full vehicle history for when you sell. (I keep hardcopies in binders, but that's me. For my tracked AMG, it's mostly brakes and tires.)

My point is that your approach of staying in warranty works great. But so does mine.

 

[FrankNSteinPC]

I totally understand that approach, and almost everyone I know follows it or leases. We keep our cars 10-12 years minimum since I hate car payments and love my cars. For example, my wife's car will be 30 yo next year. So a good 3rd party mechanic is a must for us. Most 3rd party mechanics are terrible, but if you can find the right one, it's great. My guys have the equipment to diagnose the issues the dealer can. Dealers don't do repairs anyway, they just replace components. My guys can do that. They also tell me what I should take in for warranty so I can save $$. Just a few weeks ago, I took my AMG in before my extended warranty expired and got over $10K of retail work done - way more than the warranty cost me. (Sidebar, tracking my AMG burns through the dynamic transmission and engine mounts fast so that was a loophole I got under warranty several times )

Anyway, if you research carefully, you can find good mechanics who know their stuff. And to a prior post, they can keep a full vehicle history for when you sell. (I keep hardcopies in binders, but that's me. For my tracked AMG, it's mostly brakes and tires.)

My point is that your approach of staying in warranty works great. But so does mine.

Totally agree. Both methods work. I like to play with the newest tech, so that prompts me as well, not just warranty. If I reach a point I’m happy with the tech and gadgets, then yeah, no car payments rock for sure. We just paid off the Volvo and it’s still in great condition. My brother in law has the same Ford 250 he had when I first met him 27 years ago. He still likes his truck, especially since it’s paid off. So yeah, we all have our motivators and justifications.

 

[frogjbm]

@frogjbm Here is what I was able to extract:
Cause:
0890752T Wiring Harness, body – test and replace

CADM Bracket (2 – Skilled) 44186 W

1 68601445AA Wiring-Jumper

1 68634362AP Module-Telematics

1 68563542AB Wiring-Jumper

1 Prereturn Part Return

85860101 DID-I Submission – 44186 W

484 Performed WITECH diagnostics – found codes U0081-F2-ETHERNET Bus Module, Found high resistance (1.60 Ohms) in Ethernet Portion of CADM Harness in rear of vehicle. 0890752T 1.2, FC:14 / 85860101 .11.30 Replaced CADM Bracket wiring harness, cleared codes, and test drove vehicle 69 miles to verify concern was corrected.

08201401 LTE – Test and replace Cable, antenna LTE (2 – Skilled)

484 Found that TBM2 Module has internal failure also LTE cable short out causing UCONNECT issue and pop out warning on the screen.

08201401 0.9HRS 08203701 1.01.90 TBM2 Module and LTE Cable replaced, TBM2 Module Replacement Procedure, Proxi alignment, restore vehicle configuration procedures performed, codes cleared. Vehicle parked out to allow system communication with satellite. Vehicle test drove for 60 miles.

Wow this appears that gateway module (TBM2) failed, so no wonder loss of comms. And it sounds like a physical cable failure maybe (or was replaced by default).

So you’re good to go now??

 

[FrankNSteinPC]

Wow this appears that gateway module (TBM2) failed, so no wonder loss of comms. And it sounds like a physical cable failure maybe (or was replaced by default).

So you’re good to go now??

Yes, so far, so good. Zero errors have appeared, U-Connect is fully operational, all blind spot monitoring sensors seem to be working fine, and self-driving is working, so I think I am good to go now. I hope this truck has no more issues for the next 100k mi or until I trade it out.

 

[frogjbm]

Yes, so far, so good. Zero errors have appeared, U-Connect is fully operational, all blind spot monitoring sensors seem to be working fine, and self-driving is working, so I think I am good to go now. I hope this truck has no more issues for the next 100k mi or until I trade it out.

Man that’s great to hear! Enjoy it!

 

[Deange2001]

It used to be this way, but then the vehicles became so electronic and computerized that the buyer was almost forced to visit the dealership. I can see how a local shop would be good for non-warranty items. I think I am heading back in that direction.

With this RAM, I purchased a bumper-to-bumper warranty of 100,000 miles. This means I will be visiting the dealership for service, maintenance, and other needs. I'm not sure how valid this is anymore. Still, I always believed that having maintenance done at a dealership entered the vehicle's maintenance information into the system, allowing for easy tracking of all repairs, maintenance history, and so on. This would be particularly beneficial when it came to reselling, as all relevant information would be stored in one database and easily accessible. This was once the case, but it may no longer be valid.

Yup, this is the first vehicle I have ever purchased an extended warranty on. I don't drive much and usually keep cars 3-5 years so I only did the 5 year 60k but that is more than enough for me.

 

[DansRHO]

I feel your pain.....I bought a 2025 Ram RHO from Mark Doge Ram and after 350 miles both catalytic converters and O2 sensors burned up. Truck has been at a dealership in Texas for 26 days and still waiting. Mark Doge called them and said it was a ground wire and after checking that isn’t the problem. Any ideas on why they burned up and how to keep it from happening again? Not getting good support on troubleshooting the problem.

 

[Myers1981]

jesus guys... I just ordered an RHO yesterday and was so excited. Watched a ton of great reviews and now after reading all this it's got me a bit spooked. It's set to be built over the next month or two so hopefully they have a lot of these things figured out by now.

It's funny because normally online forums you always read bad things but in real life the failure rates are so low. Why is that? I guess if everything is working right they may not be online posting about it and maybe just enjoying ownership. Anyway I hope anyone that was having issues have now got it all sorted out and loving the hell out of their trucks. Stay up kings!

 

[tico1998]

Here is my RHO getting towed off yesterday. Dead battery and every possible warning light you can think of on the dash. So pissed. As someone else said. Best and worst truck I've ever owned. 4k miles.

 

[Myers1981]

View attachment 14200Here is my RHO getting towed off yesterday. Dead battery and every possible warning light you can think of on the dash. So pissed. As someone else said. Best and worst truck I've ever owned. 4k miles.

That sucks. Sorry man. It seems like its mostly electrical gremlins. Hopefully ram figures it out soon and has some upgraded harness or solution to whatever is causing these issues.

Seems the trans/motor/suspension is stout. Just gotta figure out this new electrical crap. Hope you get it back soon and all issues solved.

 

[tico1998]

That sucks. Sorry man. It seems like its mostly electrical gremlins. Hopefully ram figures it out soon and has some upgraded harness or solution to whatever is causing these issues.

Seems the trans/motor/suspension is stout. Just gotta figure out this new electrical crap. Hope you get it back soon and all issues solved.

100% Electrical gremlins.

 

[Myers1981]

100% Electrical gremlins.

You have a good sense of humor making it your AV pic lol

 

[RamFan]

View attachment 14200Here is my RHO getting towed off yesterday. Dead battery and every possible warning light you can think of on the dash. So pissed. As someone else said. Best and worst truck I've ever owned. 4k miles.

My battery died at 4k miles too, day before yesterday. Jumped it and its acting like nothing is wrong but its only showing about 13.1v which is on the low side. Dealer is going to replace the batteries on Friday.

Chris

 

[Deange2001]

My battery died at 4k miles too, day before yesterday. Jumped it and its acting like nothing is wrong but its only showing about 13.1v which is on the low side. Dealer is going to replace the batteries on Friday.

Chris

do you have a trickle charger? can you top it off and see where the battery voltage is when the car is off? Mine died the day after I bought it, since then I haven't had the battery die or issues with startup...but I also put it on a trickle charger every 2-3 weeks. Not sure if it actually is doing anything or what.

that said my latest issue is not the Uconnect bullshit...this will be my 7th visit to the dealer in 4-5 months of owning.

 

[RamFan]

do you have a trickle charger? can you top it off and see where the battery voltage is when the car is off? Mine died the day after I bought it, since then I haven't had the battery die or issues with startup...but I also put it on a trickle charger every 2-3 weeks. Not sure if it actually is doing anything or what.

that said my latest issue is not the Uconnect bullshit...this will be my 7th visit to the dealer in 4-5 months of owning.

After I had my trusty little MX-5 hooked up to its big ass brother for about 15 minutes, it showed over 14v but then dropped quickly after removing the jumper cables.

I think the batteries are toast…I turned off the proximity sensor in the meantime time too. They’ll load test them Friday. If I had one I’d do it myself but I don’t

Chris

 

[tico1998]

My battery died at 4k miles too, day before yesterday. Jumped it and its acting like nothing is wrong but its only showing about 13.1v which is on the low side. Dealer is going to replace the batteries on Friday.

Chris

Today they are telling me that they are going to replace the batteries and see if they can get some of the warning lights off. Whats weird is my ebrake would not turn off so I couldnt even drive it after I got it to turn over.

 

[tico1998]

Today they are telling me that they are going to replace the batteries and see if they can get some of the warning lights off. Whats weird is my ebrake would not turn off so I couldnt even drive it after I got it to turn over.

UPDATE: They switched out the main battery. Very next day AEB light popped up on dash. The blind spot indicators on both mirrors turned on and would not shut off. And a few other warning lights popped on. I've been driving it for a few days now and nothing has popped back up. So weird.

 

[tico1998]

jesus guys... I just ordered an RHO yesterday and was so excited. Watched a ton of great reviews and now after reading all this it's got me a bit spooked. It's set to be built over the next month or two so hopefully they have a lot of these things figured out by now.

It's funny because normally online forums you always read bad things but in real life the failure rates are so low. Why is that? I guess if everything is working right they may not be online posting about it and maybe just enjoying ownership. Anyway I hope anyone that was having issues have now got it all sorted out and loving the hell out of their trucks. Stay up kings!

Even with the problems I have had I don't think I would have done things any different TBH. 1st Gen truck I knew from the get I was rolling the dice. When I have the truck, and its running right, I love this thing.

 

[Myers1981]

UPDATE: They switched out the main battery. Very next day AEB light popped up on dash. The blind spot indicators on both mirrors turned on and would not shut off. And a few other warning lights popped on. I've been driving it for a few days now and nothing has popped back up. So weird.

Even with the problems I have had I don't think I would have done things any different TBH. 1st Gen truck I knew from the get I was rolling the dice. When I have the truck, and its running right, I love this thing.

Yea but the question for me is over time do you think all these issues will get sorted out. I planned to buy and keep the truck for long-term. I also don't mind spending money on aftermarket items and support. I just would hate to on a day to day basis deal with something you're supposed to have a passion for and it's nothing but headaches. Thaat really takes the enjoyment out of the car hobby. Granted every vehicle if you visit their board has issues and people bitching lol I checked out the Raptors / TRX's / and even some V8 TT BMW X5's - all same kinda stuff lol