INEXPENSIVE 6 Piston Brake Upgrade

[D&Sadventure]

I respectfully disagree.

Bigger brakes generate heat slower, as well as dissipating heat faster. This allows them to not fade as quickly. This is independent of the type of pad used.

This is solely why big brakes exist, not because they look cool.

Stopping "power" isn't the only thing that matters in braking. In fact, it's almost a non-factor. A set of brakes on any car are usually powerful enough to basically lock up the wheels.

The actual big and extremely important question in braking on a performance vehicle is how many times you can stop/slow down during a certain window before the brakes essentially stop working due to heat (fade).

This is why they're universally used in performance cars, and why no sane person would be caught dead on a race track without a set of them. This isn't done for looks.

A set of big brakes will ABSOLUTELY come in handy on a 6,000lb truck. Aggressively drive these things and the braking power disappears- fast.

Can you run race pad compounds on a set of small brakes to slightly help with fade? Sure, but good luck stopping when they're cold or when it's wet out.

If you drove 2 of the same vehicles back to back, one with standard brakes and one with 6 pistons, the difference in fade would be night and day and very apparent. I've had two cars with them, and I will personally never buy a car (not truck) without big brakes again.

I think RHOfan said mostly the same thing he just worded it differently. You went into a little more detailed perspective. Another point is that opposing piston caliber brakes use both pads equally where as single piston calipers are essentially one pad brakes. The clamping force and heat are not equal on both sides. It’s all just saying the same thing with different supporting information.

 

[Wrinkled_Donut]

I think RHOfan said mostly the same thing he just worded it differently. You went into a little more detailed perspective. Another point is that opposing piston caliber brakes use both pads equally where as single piston calipers are essentially one pad brakes. The clamping force and heat are not equal on both sides. It’s all just saying the same thing with different supporting information.

Yeah I definitely think he did, he obviously knows what he's talking about. Maybe disagree was the wrong word to use on my part. I was just trying to elaborate on the fade specifically, since heat is the number one enemy of brakes.

Under performing brakes are a huge pet-peeve of mine, and I really wish Ram offered a big brake package from the factory on these trucks. Maybe part of it is how I drive and the environment I do it in (shitty, overpopulated, congested NJ roads where you're constantly stoping and going) but the braking on my Rebel, for example, is terrible for any kind of spirited driving. I'd imagine having 540hp at my disposal and running out of stopping power after 2 or 3 hard brakes is going to get annoying personally.

To offer a 540hp truck without an at least an option for larger brakes is a missed opportunity, in my opinion. I may be in the minority, but I'd personally have paid big money for factory big brakes. I suppose like @RHOfan said though, this is mostly a packaging/sizing issue with the wheels.

 

[Nick797]

Yeah I definitely think he did, he obviously knows what he's talking about. Maybe disagree was the wrong word to use on my part. I was just trying to elaborate on the fade specifically, since heat is the number one enemy of brakes.

Under performing brakes are a huge pet-peeve of mine, and I really wish Ram offered a big brake package from the factory on these trucks. Maybe part of it is how I drive and the environment I do it in (shitty, overpopulated, congested NJ roads where you're constantly stoping and going) but the braking on my Rebel, for example, is terrible for any kind of spirited driving. I'd imagine having 540hp at my disposal and running out of stopping power after 2 or 3 hard brakes is going to get annoying personally.

To offer a 540hp truck without an at least an option for larger brakes is a missed opportunity, in my opinion. I may be in the minority, but I'd personally have paid big money for factory big brakes. I suppose like @RHOfan said though, this is mostly a packaging/sizing issue with the wheels.

I share similar local roads to you so i will let you know if these help at all. The stock pedal feeling alone sucks in my opinion, It may be because there is no vacuum booster is what I do not really like i just feel disconnected from the brakes if that makes any sense.

 

[Wrinkled_Donut]

I share similar local roads to you so i will let you know if these help at all. The stock pedal feeling alone sucks in my opinion, It may be because there is no vacuum booster is what I do not really like i just feel disconnected from the brakes if that makes any sense.

Awesome, let us know! My truck is actually arriving today around noon, so I plan on taking a road trip out to your shop (possibly with my buddy @Myers1981 ) in the near future.

 

[Nick797]

Awesome, let us know! My truck is actually arriving today around noon, so I plan on taking a road trip out to your shop (possibly with my buddy @Myers1981 ) in the near future.

I've got a decent amount of what i'd call "Starter Mods" here! Haha.

 

[INTIMD8R]

I am all for more power stopping power, but does everyone here think the RHO has the same braking system as a regular Ram 1500?
I do remember reading on the Ram website that the RHO came with high performance brakes (definitely not saying their great. Don't know waiting on my truck still). Couldn't find on website anymore but found this. Again you guys with your trucks already know more then me.

 

[Nick797]

I am all for more power stopping power, but does everyone here think the RHO has the same braking system as a regular Ram 1500?
I do remember reading on the Ram website that the RHO came with high performance brakes (definitely not saying their great. Don't know waiting on my truck still). Couldn't find on website anymore but found this. Again you guys with your trucks already know more then me.

Do not trust AI google responses for anything automotive related.

But they do use the same size pad and rotor and caliper as the standard 1500 & TRX.

 

[D&Sadventure]

I am all for more power stopping power, but does everyone here think the RHO has the same braking system as a regular Ram 1500?
I do remember reading on the Ram website that the RHO came with high performance brakes (definitely not saying their great. Don't know waiting on my truck still). Couldn't find on website anymore but found this. Again you guys with your trucks already know more then me.

I’ve only had my truck for 3000 miles but I think it stops just fine. No complaints at all. Having said that, i’m not an aggressive driver. I’m not trying to brake late into corners. I’m not waiting for the last second to stop. I have also not towed with it yet but properly adjusted trailer brakes will definitely affect that also.

 

[RDRHINO]

So towing with it, especially something with some weight, you will definitely feel brake fade. I didn't notice it so much with my other boat but with my new one....I can absolutely see a need for bigger performance brakes. Am I gonna? Probably not....I'm not building a race truck and I do occasionally get told "NO" from time to time by my accountant. And although I do have the towing package and brake controller, my trailer does not have electric/hydraulic brakes. It only has surge brakes so most of the braking is left to the truck. Not ideal but it is what it is.

 

[Mikey Swift]

I took the Braptor out the other day, was coming to a stop out of the neighborhood going 25mph...pushed the brake like I would in the RHO out of muscle memory, and damn near went through the windshield.

 

[tbolts10]

Alright i'm doing it.

 

[Ag512bbi]

Keep us posted. I'm feeling a little bit in the "too good to be true" camp but definitely interested if these perform well.

Brakes are the last thing you want to screw around with. Sounds tempting, but temptation can lead to ...

 

[Wrinkled_Donut]

Brakes are the last thing you want to screw around with. Sounds tempting, but temptation can lead to ...

This. Personally brakes and tires are the one thing I'll never cheap out on. But, I'm super curious to see how these kits perform. For what it's worth, the build quality looks good from what I can see in the photos.

 

[INTIMD8R]

This. Personally brakes and tires are the one thing I'll never cheap out on. But, I'm super curious to see how these kits perform. For what it's worth, the build quality looks good from what I can see in the photos.

Seems too good to be true.

 

[D&Sadventure]

It’s not rocket science it’s rotors pads and calipers. As long as the metal composition on everything is good and the machining is true. I think the price is realistic. Some other companies are overinflated. It would be nice if they had a black option. Or even Silver.

 

[Wrinkled_Donut]

It’s not rocket science it’s rotors pads and calipers. As long as the metal composition on everything is good and the machining is true. I think the price is realistic. Some other companies are overinflated. It would be nice if they had a black option. Or even Silver.

Agreed, and honestly I'm so glad Rough Country is coming out with affordable stuff like this. Hopefully they sell like hot cakes and it forces competitors to lower their price.

I remember when the only brake parts RC had were those stupid plastic caliper covers lol. I love the direction the company seems to be going in.

I'll be buying one of their tonneau covers.

 

[RonRHO]

It’s not rocket science it’s rotors pads and calipers. As long as the metal composition on everything is good and the machining is true. I think the price is realistic. Some other companies are overinflated. It would be nice if they had a black option. Or even Silver.

I agree with your statement. So many things are overpriced because it has a name on it and folks think they need that name. If the die was made to exact specifications, no reason the calipers won't be a nice piece. Hopefully the seals and pistons are off the shelf components.

 

[SeñorRAM]

Take my money @Nick797

I’m down to purchase a set…If you have a discount code to share, please DM me

 

[Nick797]

Take my money @Nick797

I’m down to purchase a set…If you have a discount code to share, please DM me

Pm Coming!

 

[Nick797]

Got my kit here as of 5 minutes ago.

First round of info

Rotor is 14.8 Inches weighs 24.1
Center hat is aluminum
Brackets are steel
Caliper weighs 12.4 pounds

More to come

Stock Rotor 32 lbs
Stock Caliper with Pads 25